happygilmore
10:58 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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We have to keep enough money aside to keep paying Andy Carroll £70k a week
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Kaiser Zoso
8:53 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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Where the y*ds can keep a grip on wages because they have an upward curve on achievement, we’ve got a couple of seasons of buying Snograss and Fonte and scraping through to stay in the division
I’d pay him more, get Oxford back and give him a chance, and out Reid before it gets impossible to offload him.
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stewie griffin
8:18 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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Ken Dyer says we have offered him 8k a week.
I'd suggest it's an ample wage for a 19 year old, but as he looks around the dressing room I'm not surprised he feels he's worth more. Very dangerous game having no discernable wage structure and massively overpaying some on a comparitive basis
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threesixty
7:07 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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Eerie Descent
"It's more the precedent it set by us giving him that ridiculous contract."
All these kids are getting crazy contracts. Its kind of unavoidable in football now. The only thing you can do is actually guarantee them 1st team football which doesnt happen in the PL much. Thats probably why so many of our youngsters are happier in Germany at the moment.
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threesixty
7:06 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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ludo21
"Has it though? I believe Oxford only made 4 appearances for BMG since January and they don't appear to be desperate to retain him so I doubt he has progressed any better than had he stayed here?"
But they want to buy him and last I heard they believe in him and he likes being there. How many of our youth products in the last 2/3yrs can we sell for 10-15m? (apart from Rice).
We kind of held on to an asset we didnt really pay for and managed to keep his value seeing as under Bilic he wasnt ever going to get a game. Also, his reputation seems to be intact unlike all of our other prospects.
Seems like good business really.
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Swiss.
6:46 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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ludo
That's right. Difficult to know exactly what Pelle will do with the youngsters. Cullen? don't think so and same with Martinez, Byram and Burke.
And the scandie kid not Hakšabanović.
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ludo21
6:34 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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threesixty 5:08 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
Oxford has been on loan for a while so we haven't been paying for that asset really. And the asset has been appreciating via the German league.
Has it though? I believe Oxford only made 4 appearances for BMG since January and they don't appear to be desperate to retain him so I doubt he has progressed any better than had he stayed here?
As you say, at least someone else was paying (part of) his wages.
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Eerie Descent
6:29 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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threesixty 5:08 Thu Jun 7
It's more the precedent it set by us giving him that ridiculous contract. It's not going to be such a good deal if every half decent youth player now expects the same, is it? We're kind of seeing the repercussions now with Rice.
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Russ of the BML
6:13 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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hammerforever 4:42 Thu Jun 7
Even better then. Is this even a story?
The shit stirrers in the media that just wish to create shit between the fans and the board are having a field day this week.
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Willtell
5:10 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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Moses didn't develop at other clubs so much as when he went back to Chelsea and Conte realised he was a good wing back but a fairly shit winger that no-one wanted...
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threesixty
5:08 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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Oxford has been on loan for a while so we haven't been paying for that asset really. And the asset has been appreciating via the German league.
So I think thats been pretty good business really if we want to sell him. If he didn't get loaned I doubt he'd be worth anything.
I've seen players like Moses develop through numerous loan spells and it kind of makes sense.
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Kaiser Zoso
4:51 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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Easy cowboy
I understand why people have an agenda about the board, but this happens all of the time in football in every club.
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After8
4:47 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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As usual this is a complete mess and just loses goodwill with fans and the player.
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Eerie Descent
4:43 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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All this is off the back of what they paid Reece Oxford.
I hate the owners, but they were fucked on that one. We had a kid who at his age group was the mostly highly rated in the country, the press got hold of it, and he was linked to all the big clubs. If he'd have gone to one of them instead of signing for us, there would have been uproar.
In hindsight, because he hasn't really progressed, it now looks like bad business, and it also looks like what we're offering Rice isn't enough, when the reality is it's more than enough, we're just overpaying Oxford.
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hammerforever
4:42 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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Russ of the BML 3.50
Actually he is on £3,000 a week and they have offered £15,000 basic with appearance bonuses which could take it up to £30,000
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franksfat&slow&wank
4:37 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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yeah the media hate our board so this is just the story for them
I'd imagine he has turned down this offer but isn't this just standard a lot of the time
the board are cunts though and its water off a ducks back to them
they'll not be losing sleep over all the hype as the past has proven
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chim chim cha boo
4:31 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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'Any negotations are nobodys business but his'
...which is why the club leak this story to the media, as usual.
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Full Claret Jacket
4:26 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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A bunch of hysterical queens on here. The media and his agent must be lapping this up. A complete non story made into a major one due to the desperation of some fans to sling mud at the board
Any negotations are nobodys business but his. It will be sorted at some stage I'm sure.
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Russ of the BML
3:50 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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So actually as it turns out they are doubling his current wage to £16k. Not so bad for a 19 year old.
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Pagey
3:19 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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No worries Chim!
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Jaan Kenbrovin
3:14 Thu Jun 7
Re: Declan Rice Pay Rise
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I can't get my head around fans getting worried about a player not getting paid enough - The sport is rife with greedy cunt agents, and given the amount of wages we spend comparative to the clubs we end up competing for league spots with, we must be one of the best paying clubs in world football.
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